Dokuga Forum
Welcome, Guest
Please Login or Register.    Lost Password?
tai or dai?
(1 viewing) 1 Guest
Go to bottom
TOPIC: tai or dai?
#11602
LC Rose
Supporter
Posts: 709
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 39
I've often wondered what the difference was--if any--between a taiyouaki and a daiyoukai. Thanks to the wonderful Nobody, I learned that tai actually means fish and dai means big. SO this entire time I have insulting my Fluffy by calling him a fish youkai?

**begs forgiveness from Sesshoumaru**

Just thought I'd share the info! And see if anyone else out there has something to add to the topic....
 
Logged Logged
 
~PPFT!~

Muses...cannot live with them, cannot kill them.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11636
Saholia
Supporter
Posts: 1049
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 31
lmao!!!!! So tai means fish--that's hilarious...poor Sesshy though!
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11690
Nefret
Taiyoukai
Posts: 326
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 12
LC Rose wrote:
I've often wondered what the difference was--if any--between a taiyouaki and a daiyoukai. Thanks to the wonderful Nobody, I learned that tai actually means fish and dai means big. SO this entire time I have insulting my Fluffy by calling him a fish youkai?



Eeep! Me too. **begs forgiveness with you**


I had always thought that "tai" and "dai" were the same thing, but just two different ways of transcribing a pictograph into a phonetic language. Just like "taoist" and "daoist", or "Peking" and "Beijing"


Shows what I know.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11699
Mistress Sianna
Supporter
Posts: 675
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 26
I had wondered about that too! I had wondered why I had never seen the word Tayoukai, in the magna. I do however remember Totosai, calling Sesshoumaru a Daiyoukai.

Fortunately, I have only rarely used the word taiyoukai in reference to Sesshoumaru. Once, twice at the most. But... hey wait! I think I just used it in the latest chapter of my story!!! *runs off to change it*
 
Logged Logged
 


Pfft! I was gonna stop procrastinating, but I never got around to it.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11700
Kira Cross
Inuyoukai
Posts: 204
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 9
it must have been a typo or something because the hiragana for Da is basicly ta with two dashes, i always wondered that too, i understood how daiyoukai but never Tai.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11703
Jupe
Supporter
Posts: 293
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 28
It might be because of the title "Inu no Taishou"? Perhaps someone decided that since that meant great dog general that a great youkai would be a taiyoukai instead of a daiyoukai.
 
Logged Logged
 



Moo. We are a cow. Take us to China.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#11704
LC Rose
Supporter
Posts: 709
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 16 Years ago Karma: 39
Jupe wrote:
It might be because of the title "Inu no Taishou"? Perhaps someone decided that since that meant great dog general that a great youkai would be a taiyoukai instead of a daiyoukai.

You are probably more than correct, Jupe! Never thought of that origin....
 
Logged Logged
 
~PPFT!~

Muses...cannot live with them, cannot kill them.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12042
adarna
Pup
Posts: 4
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 0
tai seems pretty common. I use Inuyoukai all the time and I have clue what it means. Help please.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12055
Nefret
Taiyoukai
Posts: 326
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 12
I think that Inuyoukai means dog-demon. Youkai meaning demon or spirit, and Inu meaning dog (like Inuyasha).

But if someone knows better than me, I encourage them to smack me over the head with a ruler and set the record straight.
 
Logged Logged
 
Last Edit: 2009/01/02 21:15 By Nefret.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12069
Sirinya
Pup
Posts: 23
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 10
Inuyoukai means dog-spirit in Japanese. Translated into English for the purpose of the manga, show and western culture... it comes out as demon. Its to differentiate it from a spirit/ ghost.

As for tai/dai. I cant say for certain what it means without the Japanese Kanji. If someone can get me the Japanese kanji of that them calling sesshoumaru that i can look it up. Hiragana for these wont matter too much. If you want Direct translation.. you MUST use Kanji.



EDIT: I did some searching since i needed to find the Japanese Characters. So I looked up Shoguns and their titles and such.

The Character for Tai/ Dai in Kanji is ? (the japanese character dont show up! T_T). It is interchangeable. They both mean Large/Great. Such as daimyo - Great Landlord. So Taiyouki/Daiyouki would be Great Spirit/Demon.

As for Inu no Taisho - Great Dog General or Great General of Dog. Its a title.
Inu - dog,
no - is a Particle to indicate possessive ( in the title it would mean "is or of" Depends on how you want to read it ),
Tai - Great,
Sho - General.
 
Logged Logged
 
Last Edit: 2009/01/03 00:15 By Yunnie.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12080
adarna
Pup
Posts: 4
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 0
To be honest I know very little about the history of Japan. Thank you both. Your explanations sure help a lot.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12081
Sirinya
Pup
Posts: 23
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 10
your welcome.

Also Dai/tai should never be used alone.. like alot of people have done in their stories. the whole word should be used ... taiyouki/daiyouki.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12109
LC Rose
Supporter
Posts: 709
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 12 Months ago Karma: 39
Wow. Thanks for the wealth of information here! Now I need to go and correct my fics....
 
Logged Logged
 
~PPFT!~

Muses...cannot live with them, cannot kill them.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12839
InuYoukaiLiz
Daiyoukai
Posts: 511
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 9
I've heard from a friend on deviantart that has a Japanese penpal that it's supposed to be daiyoukai but most fanfic authors put taiyoukai(I'm one of those authoress's *nervous laughter*) so I guess it really doesn't matter I guess whatever floats your boat you know
 
Logged Logged
 


PROUD Inupapa fangirl

"I wish for a heart. A heart of the man whom I'll never allow to forget me." (to Kagome) - Kikyo

"Go Naraku, gather the shards of the jewel, and once you found them all , then I will send you to hell." - Kikyo

I support Kikyo...got a problem with that?
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12840
InuYoukaiLiz
Daiyoukai
Posts: 511
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 9
demoniclove wrote:
tai seems pretty common. I use Inuyoukai all the time and I have clue what it means. Help please.

It means "Dog Demon" n.n

(Sorry I double posted but I really had the urge to help this person with the definition since I read a TON of fanfics so I started to pick up on alot of the Japanese vocabulary used)
 
Logged Logged
 
Last Edit: 2009/01/16 12:55 By InuYoukaiLiz.
 


PROUD Inupapa fangirl

"I wish for a heart. A heart of the man whom I'll never allow to forget me." (to Kagome) - Kikyo

"Go Naraku, gather the shards of the jewel, and once you found them all , then I will send you to hell." - Kikyo

I support Kikyo...got a problem with that?
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12847
DaiyoukaiGeisha
*Supporter
Posts: 156
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 15
I think this was posted in another thread but I can't find it, heh.

freelance-manga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1249.0

According to the few fluent Japanese speakers I've mentioned it to, they all went with "Dai", but it sounds like it really depends on how you do the pronunciation.
 
Logged Logged
 
::::::::::::::::
I like to have a martini, Two at the very most.
After three Im under the table, after four Im under my host.
- Dorothy Parker
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#12889
Sirinya
Pup
Posts: 23
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 10
Wow.... Dokuga hates me... I've tried to update this like 20000000x lol

After talking to my Japanese friend about the Tai/Dai Kanji character

The correct term pronouncation is Daiyoukai.


and It is still correct for Inutaishou to be pronounced with Tai.


real examples -

daimyo : Great Landlord

Seii taishougun:great general who subdues the eastern barbarians.


I had more to say but after rewriting this up 50000000000000x I give up lmao.
 
Logged Logged
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#13916
Passing-Glance
Pup
Posts: 1
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 0
Japanese name meaning for: Dai
Japanese: Great
Japanese: Big

In Chinese: there are two sources of this surname, both from the Spring and Autumn period (722–481 bc). At one time, there existed a state of Dai at one time (in modern Henan province). When this was defeated by the state of Cheng, residents of the defeated state adopted Dai as their surname. Additionally, a duke of the state of Song was called Dai, and his descendants adopted Dai as their surname.
Found info here: baby-names.familyeducation.com/name-meaning/dai?detoured=1
 
Logged Logged
 
Raj: I don't like bugs, okay? They freak me out.
Sheldon: Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.
-Big Bang Theory
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#13922
LC Rose
Supporter
Posts: 709
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:tai or dai? 15 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 39
Wow. Thanks for all the wonderful responses to this! I love learning all of this information as it makes me a better writer. If I could, I'd give karma to you all in one swoop.
 
Logged Logged
 
~PPFT!~

Muses...cannot live with them, cannot kill them.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
Go to top

INUYASHA © Rumiko Takahashi/Shogakukan • Yomiuri TV • Sunrise 2000
No money is being made from the creation or viewing of content on this site, which is strictly for personal, non-commercial use, in accordance with the copyright.